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PostSubject: Nintendo Dropping Wii U = HORRIBLE IDEA   December 2nd 2013, 10:57 pm



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PostSubject: Re: Nintendo Dropping Wii U = HORRIBLE IDEA   December 2nd 2013, 11:53 pm

Yeah, there's no reason to drop the Wii U. They just need to make it system worth having. Funny enough, this was very similar to a conversation I was having at Gamestop on Black Friday with some employees.
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PostSubject: Re: Nintendo Dropping Wii U = HORRIBLE IDEA   December 10th 2013, 11:51 am

Did anyone actually say they should drop Wii U support. I've heard people say Nintendo should just become a software developer, but that doesn't equal dropping Wii U. That just means next gen don't bother. They probably should do that. But i like their being competition in the market since MS are going to bomb this gen anyways.
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PostSubject: Re: Nintendo Dropping Wii U = HORRIBLE IDEA   December 11th 2013, 12:41 am

There have been a few people who have said that they should just give it up all together. For the life of me, I cannot find Michael Pachter's article on the issue (yeah, I know he's a bad source of "journalism") but it's there.

Either way, that's hardly the point. Giving up on the Wii U at all would take a special kind of stupid. Hell, giving up next gen would be just as bad. At that point, we'd be stuck with a duopoly of Sony and Microsoft. Basically the same thing from both sides. Just like the Democrats and Republicans in America's  government. Furthermore, the way these companies push all these multimedia entertainment services like Netflix on their consoles, gamers get everything except a gaming console. Similar to how we Americans get screwed by our politicians.

This is a long read, but I think this sums it up rather nicely.

http://www.gamnesia.com/articles/no-one-should-want-nintendo-to-stop-making-hardware
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PostSubject: Re: Nintendo Dropping Wii U = HORRIBLE IDEA   December 11th 2013, 9:21 pm

Do I wish for Nintendo to drop out of the hardware race and go software only? No. I but want them to stop pussy footing with making expensive hardware. The Wii U is so weak compared to the PS4 and Xbone. You know it's bad when people are reverting back to MEMORY CARDS (Well SD cards, but same thing) to store save data. That's bad.

I am not expecting to them to be even superior to a PS4 or Xbone (Though that would give them an edge) I ask them to be atleast CLOSE enough to be near PS4 and Xbone's level of hardware and yes, keep the whole idea of that tablet thing with them. It would still make the Wii U different from the PS4 and Xbone.

I think the real problem is games. Without much support, the console is doomed. Sure, you'll get your Nintendo games, but now it's no longer an excuse to not have 3rd-party games. The Wii got a free pass because Motion control is such a new thing. But now they are trying to make the tablet the next best thing, but even the motion controller got gimmicky by 3 years. Same with the tablet. Hell, it might even gimmicky faster. If that happens, the sales will dwindle.

Games won't be enough to save them this time, but this time, they need to go to a full campaign to show why the Wii U is better choice of gaming. Sure, it'll be hell to do, but it's not impossible.
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PostSubject: Re: Nintendo Dropping Wii U = HORRIBLE IDEA   December 11th 2013, 10:35 pm

What Nintendo needs to do is make some new IPs while still pandering to the old fanbase with the usual Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Starfox (Where is a new Starfox btw?), etc. There's a lot of clever stuff they can utilize for Starfox and Metroid concerning the tablet thing.

They got a few Third Party exclusives like Bayonetta 2 and the new Sonic, but they need more. And Nintendo should make a lot of their games more core gamer friendly.
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PostSubject: Re: Nintendo Dropping Wii U = HORRIBLE IDEA   December 14th 2013, 2:41 pm

In all fairness the weakest console normal wins the console war.

NES beat Master System (I have no clue about Atari but they got stomped)
SNES was pushing more hardware than Genese/Megadrive that won, the Jaguar was destroyed as well as the 3DO
Gameboy beat Game gear and Atari lynx
GBA and NDS beat PSP
3DS beat Vita
PS1 beat N64 (not sure how powerful the Saturn was, we could argue that the Dreamcast was here to and lost)
PS2 beat gamecube and XBOX
Wii beats PS3 and 360

So only once did Nintendo win with a superior console, they realised development costs weren't really worth it and maximised profits on each unit. They completely screwed themselves over with the expensive controller gimmick on Wii U.

So ultimately power has nothing to do with anything. Consumers are a fickle bunch.
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PostSubject: Re: Nintendo Dropping Wii U = HORRIBLE IDEA   December 14th 2013, 2:58 pm

The Saturn had better hardware than PS1 and N64 iirc. Also Genesis was technically a rival of both NES and SNES. And SNES did better once it came out. Nintendo used 16bit a lot better than Genesis did, that's for sure. And SNES kicked CD and 32X's ass. Well, more like they kicked their own asses.

I have a book about the history of gaming up to somewhere in the 2000's. It was pretty informative.

Anyway, Wii U is going to lose this console war as it stands. Right now it looks like XBONE actually has the advantage over PS4 atm but that will most likely change.
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PostSubject: Re: Nintendo Dropping Wii U = HORRIBLE IDEA   December 14th 2013, 3:01 pm

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The Saturn had better hardware than PS1 and N64 iirc. Also Genesis was technically a rival of both NES and SNES. And SNES did better once it came out. Nintendo used 16bit a lot better than Genesis did, that's for sure. And SNES kicked CD and 32X's ass. Well, more like they kicked their own asses.

I have a book about the history of gaming up to somewhere in the 2000's. It was pretty informative.

Anyway, Wii U is going to lose this console war as it stands. Right now it looks like XBONE actually has the advantage over PS4 atm but that will most likely change.

You'd be suprised how many Wii U's will shift just because the PS4 and Xboe are out of stock for christmas.  That said i do think it is impossible for it to win, Xbone also has screwed itself over this gen.  I suspect in 3 years Nintendo will make another attempt at a console, hopefully they decide to at least go half a step above PS4.
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PostSubject: Re: Nintendo Dropping Wii U = HORRIBLE IDEA   December 14th 2013, 3:05 pm

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The Saturn had better hardware than PS1 and N64 iirc. Also Genesis was technically a rival of both NES and SNES. And SNES did better once it came out. Nintendo used 16bit a lot better than Genesis did, that's for sure. And SNES kicked CD and 32X's ass. Well, more like they kicked their own asses.

I have a book about the history of gaming up to somewhere in the 2000's. It was pretty informative.

Anyway, Wii U is going to lose this console war as it stands. Right now it looks like XBONE actually has the advantage over PS4 atm but that will most likely change.

You'd be suprised how many Wii U's will shift just because the PS4 and Xboe are out of stock for christmas.  That said i do think it is impossible for it to win, Xbone also has screwed itself over this gen.  I suspect in 3 years Nintendo will make another attempt at a console, hopefully they decide to at least go half a step above PS4.

Of course Wii U will sell for Christmas time. But yeah, most likely PS4 and XBONE will sell out for the holiday season if they haven't already sold out lol. Seems like a bad idea to get either right now though. Both consoles have experienced some problems and there's not much out that's worth getting. Dunno what's out for PS4 right now that's even worth getting. For XBONE Dead Rising 3 actually looks pretty fun. Killer Instinct looks like fun too.
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PostSubject: Re: Nintendo Dropping Wii U = HORRIBLE IDEA   December 14th 2013, 5:28 pm

Dead rising 3 looks fun, but nowhere near as fun as the firt 2. It looks like the other zombie games. Honestly I think all the launch games look crap. The ony thing i care about in the forseeable future is infamous second son, that looks good, hopefully it delivers.
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PostSubject: Re: Nintendo Dropping Wii U = HORRIBLE IDEA   December 14th 2013, 5:41 pm

The best thing about Dead Rising 3 is the absolute insane amounts of zombies that are waiting to get destroyed in the most creative way you can think of.
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PostSubject: Re: Nintendo Dropping Wii U = HORRIBLE IDEA   December 14th 2013, 5:49 pm

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The best thing about Dead Rising 3 is the absolute insane amounts of zombies that are waiting to get destroyed in the most creative way you can think of.
Is ther as anything as innovative as the slicecycle or paddle saw, the crazy looking stuff seemed to have gone. If i want huge enemy count honestly i'd play dead nation that games great.
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PostSubject: Re: Nintendo Dropping Wii U = HORRIBLE IDEA   December 14th 2013, 7:11 pm

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The best thing about Dead Rising 3 is the absolute insane amounts of zombies that are waiting to get destroyed in the most creative way you can think of.
Is ther as anything as innovative as the slicecycle or paddle saw, the crazy looking stuff seemed to have gone.  If i want huge enemy count honestly i'd play dead nation that games great.

Dead Nation is pretty fun. There are a lot of great blueprint combinations. There's a rocket powered boxing glove that is basically supposed to be a Street Fighter reference lol. He actually does an uppercut and yells "Shoryuken". You can build all kinds of tanks and weird car combinations.

There's a video done per day for this game here: https://www.youtube.com/user/YoVideogames
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