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carnagevegeta Third of the Ring
Number of posts : 363 Registration date : 2010-09-07
| Subject: Who was the smarter fighter January 26th 2011, 10:03 pm | |
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Strider Zero Administrator
Number of posts : 9232 Location : McNeil Village Quote : The closer you get to something, the tougher it is to see it. Registration date : 2008-08-30
| Subject: Re: Who was the smarter fighter January 26th 2011, 10:11 pm | |
| Throughout the series, Goku has shown to be the smarter fighter. The reason Goku was the smarter fighter was because Vegeta always had such a big ego. Almost every fight he was in, his ego got in the way. Now at the end of Z, when Vegeta's ego calmed down significantly, I think he's the smarter fighter. He's always been one of the smartest characters in the series when he wanted to be. | |
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carnagevegeta Third of the Ring
Number of posts : 363 Registration date : 2010-09-07
| Subject: Re: Who was the smarter fighter January 26th 2011, 10:42 pm | |
| - Strider Zero wrote:
- Throughout the series, Goku has shown to be the smarter fighter. The reason Goku was the smarter fighter was because Vegeta always had such a big ego. Almost every fight he was in, his ego got in the way. Now at the end of Z, when Vegeta's ego calmed down significantly, I think he's the smarter fighter. He's always been one of the smartest characters in the series when he wanted to be.
true that his ego did get in the way the clear sign of that was when he fought Frieza but i always thought he was the smarter fighter because everytime he fought Goku he found a way to win he went 2-0 against Goku and provided a way for them to beat kid buu he usually knew his limits and found a way to beat Goku, Zarbon and others but IMO he was smarter through the whole series except like you said when he is blinded with power | |
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Strider Zero Administrator
Number of posts : 9232 Location : McNeil Village Quote : The closer you get to something, the tougher it is to see it. Registration date : 2008-08-30
| Subject: Re: Who was the smarter fighter January 26th 2011, 11:29 pm | |
| - carnagevegeta wrote:
- Strider Zero wrote:
- Throughout the series, Goku has shown to be the smarter fighter. The reason Goku was the smarter fighter was because Vegeta always had such a big ego. Almost every fight he was in, his ego got in the way. Now at the end of Z, when Vegeta's ego calmed down significantly, I think he's the smarter fighter. He's always been one of the smartest characters in the series when he wanted to be.
true that his ego did get in the way the clear sign of that was when he fought Frieza but i always thought he was the smarter fighter because everytime he fought Goku he found a way to win he went 2-0 against Goku and provided a way for them to beat kid buu he usually knew his limits and found a way to beat Goku, Zarbon and others but IMO he was smarter through the whole series except like you said when he is blinded with power Vegeta never beat Goku not counting Oozaru. His Oozaru state had nothing to do with him being smarter. He was just outright stronger. He beat Cui, Dodoria and Zarbon because he was stronger than them. Same thing with Jeice. He didn't even bother to read Frieza's power and failed miserably against him. Same thing with Perfect Cell. Although he knew not to go USSJ2, so did Goku. Except Goku learned how to perfect his SSJ state. Vegeta didn't beat Goku in the Buu saga. They tied and Vegeta knocked Goku out after the fight. Where Vegeta did have his epic brains were when they were needed most. Namely against Oozaru Gohan, SPC and Kid Buu. As a fighter though, Goku revolutionized fighting almost every time. | |
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carnagevegeta Third of the Ring
Number of posts : 363 Registration date : 2010-09-07
| Subject: Re: Who was the smarter fighter January 26th 2011, 11:59 pm | |
| - Strider Zero wrote:
- carnagevegeta wrote:
- Strider Zero wrote:
- Throughout the series, Goku has shown to be the smarter fighter. The reason Goku was the smarter fighter was because Vegeta always had such a big ego. Almost every fight he was in, his ego got in the way. Now at the end of Z, when Vegeta's ego calmed down significantly, I think he's the smarter fighter. He's always been one of the smartest characters in the series when he wanted to be.
true that his ego did get in the way the clear sign of that was when he fought Frieza but i always thought he was the smarter fighter because everytime he fought Goku he found a way to win he went 2-0 against Goku and provided a way for them to beat kid buu he usually knew his limits and found a way to beat Goku, Zarbon and others but IMO he was smarter through the whole series except like you said when he is blinded with power Vegeta never beat Goku not counting Oozaru. His Oozaru state had nothing to do with him being smarter. He was just outright stronger. He beat Cui, Dodoria and Zarbon because he was stronger than them. Same thing with Jeice. He didn't even bother to read Frieza's power and failed miserably against him.
Same thing with Perfect Cell. Although he knew not to go USSJ2, so did Goku. Except Goku learned how to perfect his SSJ state.
Vegeta didn't beat Goku in the Buu saga. They tied and Vegeta knocked Goku out after the fight. Where Vegeta did have his epic brains were when they were needed most. Namely against Oozaru Gohan, SPC and Kid Buu. As a fighter though, Goku revolutionized fighting almost every time. he did beat goku going into great ape form and the reason he didnt read Frieza power level is because he thought he was strong enough after Krillin attack almost killed him Vegeta knew that if he got the 2nd chance he would kill Zarbon which tells me had a plan the other people yeah he was stronger then vegeta did beat him in buu saga it was a fight and he won by knocking him out was he stronger idk the fight never finished even though goku at ss3 would have easily beat him but idk if goku at ss2 would but he did win that fight it was a dirty move but then again it is a fight cant argue about goku revoloutionizing fighting he was the 1st to do alot of things like go ss and ss3 | |
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Strider Zero Administrator
Number of posts : 9232 Location : McNeil Village Quote : The closer you get to something, the tougher it is to see it. Registration date : 2008-08-30
| Subject: Re: Who was the smarter fighter January 27th 2011, 12:12 am | |
| - carnagevegeta wrote:
- Strider Zero wrote:
- carnagevegeta wrote:
- Strider Zero wrote:
- Throughout the series, Goku has shown to be the smarter fighter. The reason Goku was the smarter fighter was because Vegeta always had such a big ego. Almost every fight he was in, his ego got in the way. Now at the end of Z, when Vegeta's ego calmed down significantly, I think he's the smarter fighter. He's always been one of the smartest characters in the series when he wanted to be.
true that his ego did get in the way the clear sign of that was when he fought Frieza but i always thought he was the smarter fighter because everytime he fought Goku he found a way to win he went 2-0 against Goku and provided a way for them to beat kid buu he usually knew his limits and found a way to beat Goku, Zarbon and others but IMO he was smarter through the whole series except like you said when he is blinded with power Vegeta never beat Goku not counting Oozaru. His Oozaru state had nothing to do with him being smarter. He was just outright stronger. He beat Cui, Dodoria and Zarbon because he was stronger than them. Same thing with Jeice. He didn't even bother to read Frieza's power and failed miserably against him.
Same thing with Perfect Cell. Although he knew not to go USSJ2, so did Goku. Except Goku learned how to perfect his SSJ state.
Vegeta didn't beat Goku in the Buu saga. They tied and Vegeta knocked Goku out after the fight. Where Vegeta did have his epic brains were when they were needed most. Namely against Oozaru Gohan, SPC and Kid Buu. As a fighter though, Goku revolutionized fighting almost every time. he did beat goku going into great ape form and the reason he didnt read Frieza power level is because he thought he was strong enough after Krillin attack almost killed him
Vegeta knew that if he got the 2nd chance he would kill Zarbon which tells me had a plan the other people yeah he was stronger then
vegeta did beat him in buu saga it was a fight and he won by knocking him out was he stronger idk the fight never finished even though goku at ss3 would have easily beat him but idk if goku at ss2 would but he did win that fight it was a dirty move but then again it is a fight cant argue about goku revoloutionizing fighting he was the 1st to do alot of things like go ss and ss3 Oozaru = Great Ape. Lol. Like I said, he was significantly stronger in great ape form. The fight was over in the Buu saga. They were talking about Buu and Goku was willing to just fly off. | |
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carnagevegeta Third of the Ring
Number of posts : 363 Registration date : 2010-09-07
| Subject: Re: Who was the smarter fighter January 27th 2011, 12:32 am | |
| - Strider Zero wrote:
- carnagevegeta wrote:
- Strider Zero wrote:
- carnagevegeta wrote:
- Strider Zero wrote:
- Throughout the series, Goku has shown to be the smarter fighter. The reason Goku was the smarter fighter was because Vegeta always had such a big ego. Almost every fight he was in, his ego got in the way. Now at the end of Z, when Vegeta's ego calmed down significantly, I think he's the smarter fighter. He's always been one of the smartest characters in the series when he wanted to be.
true that his ego did get in the way the clear sign of that was when he fought Frieza but i always thought he was the smarter fighter because everytime he fought Goku he found a way to win he went 2-0 against Goku and provided a way for them to beat kid buu he usually knew his limits and found a way to beat Goku, Zarbon and others but IMO he was smarter through the whole series except like you said when he is blinded with power Vegeta never beat Goku not counting Oozaru. His Oozaru state had nothing to do with him being smarter. He was just outright stronger. He beat Cui, Dodoria and Zarbon because he was stronger than them. Same thing with Jeice. He didn't even bother to read Frieza's power and failed miserably against him.
Same thing with Perfect Cell. Although he knew not to go USSJ2, so did Goku. Except Goku learned how to perfect his SSJ state.
Vegeta didn't beat Goku in the Buu saga. They tied and Vegeta knocked Goku out after the fight. Where Vegeta did have his epic brains were when they were needed most. Namely against Oozaru Gohan, SPC and Kid Buu. As a fighter though, Goku revolutionized fighting almost every time. he did beat goku going into great ape form and the reason he didnt read Frieza power level is because he thought he was strong enough after Krillin attack almost killed him
Vegeta knew that if he got the 2nd chance he would kill Zarbon which tells me had a plan the other people yeah he was stronger then
vegeta did beat him in buu saga it was a fight and he won by knocking him out was he stronger idk the fight never finished even though goku at ss3 would have easily beat him but idk if goku at ss2 would but he did win that fight it was a dirty move but then again it is a fight cant argue about goku revoloutionizing fighting he was the 1st to do alot of things like go ss and ss3 Oozaru = Great Ape. Lol. Like I said, he was significantly stronger in great ape form.
The fight was over in the Buu saga. They were talking about Buu and Goku was willing to just fly off. true... but i wonder if he would have won regardless because wasnt goku out of energy using the kaioken x3 | |
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Strider Zero Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Who was the smarter fighter January 27th 2011, 12:36 am | |
| He might have. The fact that he wanted to transform probably speaks loudly. | |
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carnagevegeta Third of the Ring
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| Subject: Re: Who was the smarter fighter January 27th 2011, 1:02 am | |
| - Strider Zero wrote:
- He might have. The fact that he wanted to transform probably speaks loudly.
probably blinded by rage | |
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SSbardock84 Citizen
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