android 19 vs frieza

who wins

That's a good question. I suppose it all rests on how much stronger Goku got in the three years between returning to Earth and when he fought the Androids.

If Frieza started off at full power and kept on physical attacks, then maybe. If he made the same mistake Goku did, and started using ki attacks. Then it'll go to the androids for sure.

Don't forget Frieza's psychokinesis though. And I don't think they'd be able to absorb his energy discs or death beam.

Also Goku was desperate to finish the fight. Because he was being attacked by the heart virus. Which is why he resorted to using energy attacks. I'm sure he would have stomped all over 19 if that weren't the case.

Raz wrote:

Don't forget Frieza's psychokinesis though. And I don't think they'd be able to absorb his energy discs or death beam.

Hmm, if where using the game logic, sure. However, there is no way to tell. Energy disc and Death Beams are still energy, androids absorb energy. In theory, it should be possible.

Raz wrote:

Also Goku was desperate to finish the fight. Because he was being attacked by the heart virus. Which is why he resorted to using energy attacks. I'm sure he would have stomped all over 19 if that weren't the case.

True, good point.

I dunno. I guess they could absorb them, we've just never seen them try.

100% Frieza would win probably unless he threw a couple large Ki blasts at 19.

I believe 100% Full Power Frieza would win. As long as he didn't throw energy attacks, I'd think he'd take home the battle.

i think frieza will win

Frieza. 19 sounds and fights terrible.

Freeza is a fighting genius. If he shot a small energy ball and it got absorbed, he'd kick 19's ass physically.

Oh no doubt, if thy were on equal, or near equal levels, Frieza wins.

The problem is, we don't know how big the gap in strength is between the two.

Actually come on now As much I hate the character Android 19 wins this.

He defeated Goku in the Super Saiyan State. True Goku was dominating the fight until the heart virus kicked in, but Freiza will he be a master fighter, unleashed tons of energy attacks against 19.

Goku completely dominated Freiza when he went Super Saiyan, aside from when Freiza went 100%l. Even then 19 is ruthless he wouldn't give Freiza time to achieve his full power.

Chulance wrote:

Actually come on now As much I hate the character Android 19 wins this.

He defeated Goku in the Super Saiyan State. True Goku was dominating the fight until the heart virus kicked in, but Freiza will he be a master fighter, unleashed tons of energy attacks against 19.

Goku completely dominated Freiza when he went Super Saiyan, aside from when Freiza went 100%l. Even then 19 is ruthless he wouldn't give Freiza time to achieve his full power.

SSJ Goku against Frieza>SSJ Goku against 19. The heart virus messed him up massively and he still beat the shit out of 19 for a while. Not to mention Piccolo>20 and 20 is stronger than 19. Assuming 100% Frieza was against 19, he would win unless the above stated by a couple people. What you fail to understand was that Goku had the heart virus the entire time. It didn't just kick in. As he lost energy, he lost the ability to fight it less and less.

Actually 20 was weaker then 19, this was stated.

Meh, but I see your point about the virus, So I guess Freiza would win against 19, but he always gets pwned by Super Saiyans.

He most likely loses. If Frieza uses a lot of Ki blasts, which he tends not to do, he loses. Most likely, Frieza wins though.

Chulance wrote:

Actually 20 was weaker then 19, this was stated.

Meh, but I see your point about the virus, So I guess Freiza would win against 19, but he always gets pwned by Super Saiyans.

I don't remember it being stated, but it does sound familiar. You mind getting us a manga scan of that statement? If 19>20, the gap wasn't that big. I'd maybe put 19 slightly above Piccolo at the time if the above is true. I would say that Piccolo definitely did not go from >=2nd Form Frieza -> >Final Form Frieza though in three years. The last scouted PL of Frieza was over 1,000,000 and he went to about 120,000,000 or more by the end.

Unless, of course, someone is willing to explain how Piccolo gained over 119,000,000 power level in 3 years without Saiyan zenkais.

I think at base stats, 20 > 19. After absorbing Goku's energy, 19 > 20.